From dey@noao.edu Fri Dec 22 23:16:43 2000 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:41:29 -0700 (MST) From: Arjun Dey To: sdawson@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: limits Hi Steve I forgot to comment on one of your previous questions regarding th e limiting depth of your data. Once you have determined the rms noise per pixel (using iterstat, say), you can then compute the 1 sigma limiting magnitude in a fixed aperture using: mlim = -2.5*log10[rms*sqrt(N)] where N = number of pixels in your fixed aperture (i.e., for a fixed circular aperture of diameter D arcseconds, N = (PI/4) * (D/0.258)^2 ). I generally compute a 5-sigma limit by replacing rms in the eqn above with 5*rms. Esther Hu and Len Cowie have made the case that this is an artificial way in which to measure the limiting magnitude since the noise is really dominated by the unresolved faint galaxies and not by the Poissonian sky noise. This is true, and in some sense it is better to look at the distribution of the noise estimates made in the aperture of interest by measuring the noise in a fixed aperture at many different locations in the frame and studying their distribution. This will in general result in a more conservative estimate (i.e., a brighter limiting magnitude), but may be more appropriate. You can also quote a surface brightness (i.e., in magnitudes per sq arcsecond). Just remember, whether you quote limits in magnitudes or surface brightnesses, you need to also quote the aperture to which your limit corresponds. Cheers Arjun